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		By: Q&#38;A with A House By The Park		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] you&#8217;ll likely find plenty more food for thought in Mike&#8217;s blog such as his post about induction cooktops or that whole bamboo issue. You&#8217;ll also find a complete cost breakdown and timelapse video of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] you&#8217;ll likely find plenty more food for thought in Mike&#8217;s blog such as his post about induction cooktops or that whole bamboo issue. You&#8217;ll also find a complete cost breakdown and timelapse video of [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Janet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love my 1 burner portable induction. the only thing that&#039;s been an issue in the 1+ year I&#039;ve used it, is that my kids tell me that when it&#039;s on maximum, there&#039;s a high pitch that ony they can hear. So they&#039;ll just get old like me, and that problem will solve itself. I&#039;m redoing the kitchen next year and getting a 2-burner, not sure if I want portable or built in. I was always a gas cook, but never again--cheaper, more efficient, safer, cleaner, better in my small kitchen. 
My husband is a chef, and he loves it, and read that a lot of restaurants in Europe have switched over.
Getting pans wasn&#039;t a problem, either: all cast iron works, and if you need anything else, Ikea pans are all compatible. I also found a wonderful saucepan at TJ Maxx for $5.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love my 1 burner portable induction. the only thing that&#8217;s been an issue in the 1+ year I&#8217;ve used it, is that my kids tell me that when it&#8217;s on maximum, there&#8217;s a high pitch that ony they can hear. So they&#8217;ll just get old like me, and that problem will solve itself. I&#8217;m redoing the kitchen next year and getting a 2-burner, not sure if I want portable or built in. I was always a gas cook, but never again&#8211;cheaper, more efficient, safer, cleaner, better in my small kitchen.<br />
My husband is a chef, and he loves it, and read that a lot of restaurants in Europe have switched over.<br />
Getting pans wasn&#8217;t a problem, either: all cast iron works, and if you need anything else, Ikea pans are all compatible. I also found a wonderful saucepan at TJ Maxx for $5.</p>
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		By: Toronto Modern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toronto Modern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IKEA FAVORIT COOKWARE - For those of you who are interested in reasonably priced non stick cookware that works with an induction cooktop, we made a surprising discovery:  the Ikea Favorit line.  It&#039;s pretty easy to get induction compatible cookware that is &quot;not nonstick&quot;, but good nonstick induction cooktop cookware that works well and doesn&#039;t cost the earth is a bit more of a challenge.  So far we have a couple of pieces - the large fry pan and the saute pan with lid and are thinking of getting more (grill pan looks very tempting).  The pieces are heavy and seem very well constructed.  After a couple months of regular use, they seem to be holding up well, and heat up quickly and evenly.  They cost us about $50 Canadian (would be about $40 US at the US stores) each which puts them at the top end of the Ikea line up price wise, but a lot cheaper than some of the specialty lines that are out there  (I refuse to pay $200 plus for a mere pan).  Not all Ikea lines work with induction cooktops, so you need to read the label.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IKEA FAVORIT COOKWARE &#8211; For those of you who are interested in reasonably priced non stick cookware that works with an induction cooktop, we made a surprising discovery:  the Ikea Favorit line.  It&#8217;s pretty easy to get induction compatible cookware that is &#8220;not nonstick&#8221;, but good nonstick induction cooktop cookware that works well and doesn&#8217;t cost the earth is a bit more of a challenge.  So far we have a couple of pieces &#8211; the large fry pan and the saute pan with lid and are thinking of getting more (grill pan looks very tempting).  The pieces are heavy and seem very well constructed.  After a couple months of regular use, they seem to be holding up well, and heat up quickly and evenly.  They cost us about $50 Canadian (would be about $40 US at the US stores) each which puts them at the top end of the Ikea line up price wise, but a lot cheaper than some of the specialty lines that are out there  (I refuse to pay $200 plus for a mere pan).  Not all Ikea lines work with induction cooktops, so you need to read the label.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good tips Toronto.  We are going with a GE Monogram Induction Cooktop, mainly because it&#039;s badass in silver and also because I get a GE Employee Discount.  As for the dishwasher, yeah, I am all about the Miele.  I heard that some of them have disposal/grinders, no?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good tips Toronto.  We are going with a GE Monogram Induction Cooktop, mainly because it&#8217;s badass in silver and also because I get a GE Employee Discount.  As for the dishwasher, yeah, I am all about the Miele.  I heard that some of them have disposal/grinders, no?</p>
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		By: erik spiekermann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[erik spiekermann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gaggenau have a griddle to go with their induction tops. It&#039;s an electric grill that heats lava stones. You can place a heavy griddle pan over it. We use the grill all the time and the griddle occasionally (hamburgers or pancakes are not part of our traditional diet here in Germany, even though my wife comes from Chicago).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaggenau have a griddle to go with their induction tops. It&#8217;s an electric grill that heats lava stones. You can place a heavy griddle pan over it. We use the grill all the time and the griddle occasionally (hamburgers or pancakes are not part of our traditional diet here in Germany, even though my wife comes from Chicago).</p>
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		By: Toronto Modern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toronto Modern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, Mike

Congratulations on an amazing website!  What a great resource.  Unfortunately, we can&#039;t directly benefit from the information you are sharing as we were about a year ahead of you in the process.  We bought our property at the beginning of 2007, and moved in to our rebuilt contemporary home early summer 2009.  We are still working out the final details - landscaping, furniture, lighting fixtures, etc.  That being said, I am really enjoying reading your posts and relieving our own experiences.  I could go on and on about the things we learned in the process and the angst we suffered but may I pass along my thoughts on the appliances?

1) INDUCTION.  We went with a 36 inch Bosch induction cooktop.  It was a tough decision between gas and induction, but I am thrilled with the choice we made.   You already know about the speed - it is amazing!.  But the other big benefit for us was that we could get a range hood that handled fewer CFMs.  If you go with the 5 burner gas cooktop, you will need some serious ventilation because of the natural gas.  (Choosing a good quiet range hood deserves a separate long discussion.)  People also express anxiety about the fact that they will need to get new cookware.  I didn&#039;t find this that big a deal.  Maybe my standards for cookware are too low, but I just headed out to our nearest Winners (I think the US equivalent is TJ Maxx?).  I checked to see whether the magnet on my blackberry holder would stick to the bottom of the pans and pots.  A surprising amount of the pots and pants were magnetic.  I spent less than $200 to replace  all my cookware.  You can spend a lot more if you want, but my point is that you don&#039;t have to spend a lot.

We wanted to use induction, but were worried we might not like it, so we also had them rough in the gas  for a gas cooktop as well, so we always have the ability to swap out if we want to - but I can&#039;t see us doing that.  That being said, for the risk averse (like me), installing a fallback is a good option.  

I&#039;m not an electrician so I may not be explaining this very well, but you also need a lot of power for the induction cooktops.  We needed 50 amperes for ours - so your electrician needs to put in the appropriate wiring in advance, so it&#039;s not a decision that can be made on the fly.

I love my Bosch cooktop (they also manufacturer the Thermador induction cooktops and Thermador has a really slick looking silver model that cost too much for me to justify).  I do wonder if I should have ponied up for the Miele cooktop.  I believe that one has a shut-off timer - i.e. you can decide you want to simmer something for 15 minutes, set the shut-off timer, and then it will turn itself off.  My cooktop only has a countdown timer.  My recollection was that the Miele would have cost about $1,000 more - and it wasn&#039;t worth the extra to me.


2) DISHWASHER - Please make sure you know how the filter for the dishwasher you are looking at is removed and that it&#039;s easy to use.  We narrowed it down to Bosch and Miele and were going to buy Bosch, but then at the appliance store, I asked the sales person about how the filters were cleaned out.  The sales person showed me how to take out the filters for Bosch and the Miele dishwashers.  The Bosch system was kind of finicky and difficult to use.  The Miele filter is incredibly easy to remove and reinsert.  This was our first European dishwasher.  Our previous ones were all North American style (i.e. they had grinders not filters).  I will say that occasionally washing out a filter is a small price to pay for the quiet operation.  I read somewhere that the Miele produces 61 decibels and the Bosch produce 60 decibels and that 60 decibels is the level of a conversational voice.  Our Miele is so quiet, I can&#039;t barely tell that it&#039;s on.  I will also note that these new efficient dishwashers have incredibly long wash cycles.  We&#039;re talking 90 minutes plus for the normal cycle.  The long wash cycle is a bit annoying, but all in all, I love my Miele.  We went with the basic &quot;Inspira&quot; Miele model.  No delay timer - it&#039;s so quiet, I don&#039;t need to use the delay timer to have it operate at night.   

3) LEAD TIMES - The logistics of timing the appliance delivery can get a bit tricky.  I ordered my appliances about a year before I actually needed them - I could have waited to see what new things hit the market, but I got really good pricing guaranteed, and despite a recession, during the 2 plus years we worked on our project, high end appliance prices moved up, not down.  Just remember that the appliance supplier does not want to keep any extra inventory on hand.  You may have ordered the appliances (and paid a deposit), but it&#039;s likely that the appliance supplier will wait until the last possible moment to actually order the stuff from the manufacturer.  You need to find out exactly what the process is at the retailer in terms of timing and arranging for delivery.  In our case, we needed to let them know about 4 weeks before we actually needed delivery.  But even then, there were some complications with securing items on the desired timeline.   (What do you mean the fridge drawers aren&#039;t here?  I ordered them a year ago!)   You don&#039;t want the stuff delivered too early (theft is unfortunately a bit problem on sites), but you don&#039;t want your project or move in date delayed unnecessarily.

Thanks again for letting me relive the fun through your website!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Mike</p>
<p>Congratulations on an amazing website!  What a great resource.  Unfortunately, we can&#8217;t directly benefit from the information you are sharing as we were about a year ahead of you in the process.  We bought our property at the beginning of 2007, and moved in to our rebuilt contemporary home early summer 2009.  We are still working out the final details &#8211; landscaping, furniture, lighting fixtures, etc.  That being said, I am really enjoying reading your posts and relieving our own experiences.  I could go on and on about the things we learned in the process and the angst we suffered but may I pass along my thoughts on the appliances?</p>
<p>1) INDUCTION.  We went with a 36 inch Bosch induction cooktop.  It was a tough decision between gas and induction, but I am thrilled with the choice we made.   You already know about the speed &#8211; it is amazing!.  But the other big benefit for us was that we could get a range hood that handled fewer CFMs.  If you go with the 5 burner gas cooktop, you will need some serious ventilation because of the natural gas.  (Choosing a good quiet range hood deserves a separate long discussion.)  People also express anxiety about the fact that they will need to get new cookware.  I didn&#8217;t find this that big a deal.  Maybe my standards for cookware are too low, but I just headed out to our nearest Winners (I think the US equivalent is TJ Maxx?).  I checked to see whether the magnet on my blackberry holder would stick to the bottom of the pans and pots.  A surprising amount of the pots and pants were magnetic.  I spent less than $200 to replace  all my cookware.  You can spend a lot more if you want, but my point is that you don&#8217;t have to spend a lot.</p>
<p>We wanted to use induction, but were worried we might not like it, so we also had them rough in the gas  for a gas cooktop as well, so we always have the ability to swap out if we want to &#8211; but I can&#8217;t see us doing that.  That being said, for the risk averse (like me), installing a fallback is a good option.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an electrician so I may not be explaining this very well, but you also need a lot of power for the induction cooktops.  We needed 50 amperes for ours &#8211; so your electrician needs to put in the appropriate wiring in advance, so it&#8217;s not a decision that can be made on the fly.</p>
<p>I love my Bosch cooktop (they also manufacturer the Thermador induction cooktops and Thermador has a really slick looking silver model that cost too much for me to justify).  I do wonder if I should have ponied up for the Miele cooktop.  I believe that one has a shut-off timer &#8211; i.e. you can decide you want to simmer something for 15 minutes, set the shut-off timer, and then it will turn itself off.  My cooktop only has a countdown timer.  My recollection was that the Miele would have cost about $1,000 more &#8211; and it wasn&#8217;t worth the extra to me.</p>
<p>2) DISHWASHER &#8211; Please make sure you know how the filter for the dishwasher you are looking at is removed and that it&#8217;s easy to use.  We narrowed it down to Bosch and Miele and were going to buy Bosch, but then at the appliance store, I asked the sales person about how the filters were cleaned out.  The sales person showed me how to take out the filters for Bosch and the Miele dishwashers.  The Bosch system was kind of finicky and difficult to use.  The Miele filter is incredibly easy to remove and reinsert.  This was our first European dishwasher.  Our previous ones were all North American style (i.e. they had grinders not filters).  I will say that occasionally washing out a filter is a small price to pay for the quiet operation.  I read somewhere that the Miele produces 61 decibels and the Bosch produce 60 decibels and that 60 decibels is the level of a conversational voice.  Our Miele is so quiet, I can&#8217;t barely tell that it&#8217;s on.  I will also note that these new efficient dishwashers have incredibly long wash cycles.  We&#8217;re talking 90 minutes plus for the normal cycle.  The long wash cycle is a bit annoying, but all in all, I love my Miele.  We went with the basic &#8220;Inspira&#8221; Miele model.  No delay timer &#8211; it&#8217;s so quiet, I don&#8217;t need to use the delay timer to have it operate at night.   </p>
<p>3) LEAD TIMES &#8211; The logistics of timing the appliance delivery can get a bit tricky.  I ordered my appliances about a year before I actually needed them &#8211; I could have waited to see what new things hit the market, but I got really good pricing guaranteed, and despite a recession, during the 2 plus years we worked on our project, high end appliance prices moved up, not down.  Just remember that the appliance supplier does not want to keep any extra inventory on hand.  You may have ordered the appliances (and paid a deposit), but it&#8217;s likely that the appliance supplier will wait until the last possible moment to actually order the stuff from the manufacturer.  You need to find out exactly what the process is at the retailer in terms of timing and arranging for delivery.  In our case, we needed to let them know about 4 weeks before we actually needed delivery.  But even then, there were some complications with securing items on the desired timeline.   (What do you mean the fridge drawers aren&#8217;t here?  I ordered them a year ago!)   You don&#8217;t want the stuff delivered too early (theft is unfortunately a bit problem on sites), but you don&#8217;t want your project or move in date delayed unnecessarily.</p>
<p>Thanks again for letting me relive the fun through your website!</p>
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		By: Faruk Ateş		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Faruk Ateş]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My parents got an induction stove when they completely remodeled the (old) house they bought, years ago when I was still living with them.

It took a little bit of getting used to for us, because it cooked everything so much faster than the ceramic stove we had at the old place, but once we became adjusted to the instantly-heated pans we started to really love it.

It&#039;s the easiest to clean, easiest to use (principally), and most energy-efficient way of cooking. If/when I go for a house of my own, induction is definitely the way for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents got an induction stove when they completely remodeled the (old) house they bought, years ago when I was still living with them.</p>
<p>It took a little bit of getting used to for us, because it cooked everything so much faster than the ceramic stove we had at the old place, but once we became adjusted to the instantly-heated pans we started to really love it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the easiest to clean, easiest to use (principally), and most energy-efficient way of cooking. If/when I go for a house of my own, induction is definitely the way for me.</p>
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		By: Byron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Byron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How does it work for melting a ball of hash between two knives? Would it conduct that and flame the hash up for proper nose hits?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does it work for melting a ball of hash between two knives? Would it conduct that and flame the hash up for proper nose hits?</p>
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		By: stew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve got a four-ring induction hob by AEG, the 78000.

After a year of use, there is not a scratch on it. I boiled an enamel kettle dry once on it, but the heat and enamel didn&#039;t mark the surface. I work at home, so we cook on it three times a day. It is far far easier to clean than a gas hob.

It is extremely fast to boil water and very controllable once you get the hang of it. Some new models in Japan can even automatically detect and hold a set temperature for deep frying etc. With the model we have, its possible to use two rings simultaneously for a large oval Le Creuset type pot or a roasting tin when making gravy.

We can&#039;t use crock pots or the fondue pan we have, but have a table top single burner that uses small gas canisters for such occasions.

If you like cooking with a wok, forget domestic appliances and get a proper industrial strength burner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve got a four-ring induction hob by AEG, the 78000.</p>
<p>After a year of use, there is not a scratch on it. I boiled an enamel kettle dry once on it, but the heat and enamel didn&#8217;t mark the surface. I work at home, so we cook on it three times a day. It is far far easier to clean than a gas hob.</p>
<p>It is extremely fast to boil water and very controllable once you get the hang of it. Some new models in Japan can even automatically detect and hold a set temperature for deep frying etc. With the model we have, its possible to use two rings simultaneously for a large oval Le Creuset type pot or a roasting tin when making gravy.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t use crock pots or the fondue pan we have, but have a table top single burner that uses small gas canisters for such occasions.</p>
<p>If you like cooking with a wok, forget domestic appliances and get a proper industrial strength burner.</p>
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		By: Nancy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Friends of ours have an induction cooktop -- because she is blind. It is not hot to the touch, so that&#039;s  a huge benefit. In any case, we spent a few days there (before we were able to move in to our new home) and I did not like how it functioned at all. I&#039;m not sure of the brand. It cooks extremely fast even on a low setting -- great for boiling water. I had a hard time cooking bacon on it. It just burned very fast. I guess you would eventually get the hang of it.  Also, they had to buy special pans - as the previous poster pointed out. Personally, I MUCH prefer gas - I just really like to see the flame.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends of ours have an induction cooktop &#8212; because she is blind. It is not hot to the touch, so that&#8217;s  a huge benefit. In any case, we spent a few days there (before we were able to move in to our new home) and I did not like how it functioned at all. I&#8217;m not sure of the brand. It cooks extremely fast even on a low setting &#8212; great for boiling water. I had a hard time cooking bacon on it. It just burned very fast. I guess you would eventually get the hang of it.  Also, they had to buy special pans &#8211; as the previous poster pointed out. Personally, I MUCH prefer gas &#8211; I just really like to see the flame.</p>
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